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"Should civil servants be allowed to join private sector for 5 years as a rule ? "


Nothing can provide better industry prospective than a stint in private sector by the civil servants. Again, Industry also benefits as it is in any case engaging many voluntary retired civil servants now a days. Chances of favouritism in favour of served industry can be avoided by not putting the concerned civil servant in any position which has something to do with the employing private sector Industry. Good remuneration in private sectorfor the civil servants can act as incentive for the civil servants to continue to work even on relatively lower pay packets in the government with sincerity and integrity.
Somesh

In India Government servants are divided in two parts. One is holding gazetted posts or 'A' Class officers, second is subordinate employees. Lot of exchequer is incurred by government on training of 'A' class officers. I have no information on exchequer being incurred on Subordinate employees. In case trained 'A' class officers are permitted for 5 years, it will be a burden on government for additional appointment, training, etc.
Ramesh Chhabra

Why only the private sector, civil servants can be allowed to join politics, media, education both in India and abroad etc for five years as well. They may retain lien on their services/posts for five years, i.e. they may come back to rejoin their services/posts (I do feel once the civil servants have joined these greener pastures successfully, most of them may not wish to come back to government). Just by the way, I am quite sure this will never be allowed!
A k singh

Yes, Provided they are not in a position to exploit private sector by giving false assurances of release of govt. money.
Dr Dinesh Paul

Yes, of course. This should be done in the intial stages of their joining the Government. Rather it should be in continuation of their probation period. This will ensure corporate expertise also to play part in executing governmental business. " Life without industry is guilt, industry without art is brutality"(Ruskin). Let this art of private sector excellence play in serving the public. To bring private sector excellence in Parliament, will it ever be possible, by rule, that any financial loss of hard earned income tax payers money due to stoppage of work, will be deducted as fine.

Luxmi Narain Bajaj

We all made out chices to serve the Government; and such secondments to private sector will only provide jobs to those in 'nexus' with them. Government will be a big loser, both in terms of erosion in ethics and developing the vested interests among the public servants.Those who wish, can quit and serve the private sector and their own 'private interests'.
U S Pant

Yes I think Govt should allow civil servants to go on deputation. In private sector one has to perform and civil servants who are not required to perform in the hallowed government sector would be able to realize their real worth in a short time. Care is however to be exercised to ensure that civil servants are not picked up by the private sector for their networking skill alone. The private sector they are allowed to join should not have any direct or indirect relationship with their last posting and should not be heavily dependant on the government for favors and contracts. On the whole it is a good idea.

Ashwani Lohani

As a matter of policy it will be wonderful to allow officers to join private sector.This will allow themselves to groom their skills.But, i am afraid they will come back. Grain will go, chaff will stayback????
Career Bureaucrat

I would certaily recommend that civil servents should come and be a part of the private sector. There is so much to learn from their innovative and customer oriented work culture which civil servents do miss for sure.
swashant srivastava

As per extant policy, a Government servant has to offer to resign the post held by him in the Government before he applies for private emplyment. This policy
has been invogue for quite some time past. Now that, private sector has started playing a major role in the eeconomic growth economy has to compete with global giants, the fuctioning of Govt has also to undergo suitable change. Echange of manpower between privated sector and the Government to contribute to overall efficiency of output. The proposal should therfore,be supported.
H G Upreti

Allowing civil servants to join private sector for 5 yrs will only allow them to be more efficient, effective and loyal to corruption.

B N Singh

This idea of a private sector tenure has been in vogue in the japanese civil service for a very long time. however, in our own context we need to do some reality check.

you can then go in for a change in your website domain (URL), my dear doc. for starters, you may call it whispersindalalstreet.com. at least it would formalize what one hears happens on the sly, in swinging favours for the chosen private sector companies - and there would not be that long a wait till superannuation, to seek greener pastures and to extract that pound of flesh that eludes during the sarkari naukri! leave alone, the private sector, doc; perhaps, you are unaware that these days, those in positions of clout can get financial contributions sanctioned to even multilateral bodies, in return for "assignments".
S Kumar

No. It is not correct to allow govt. servants to join private sector.
It may be noted that even in some public sectors if bureaucrats are willing to join they have to resign first they why this liberty for private sector jobs. Its the cream of nation which is recruited and trained at huge expense of public money. Moreover this will be unethical.

Rajesh

Are we not satisfied with the results of Politician Bureaucrat nexus
that we are raising another point for a strong alliance between
Bureaucracy and Industrialist. This issue needs no debate. if any one is willing to work in private sector let him resign and join private sector. Tomorrow there will be a demand for granting Five years leave for contesting elections to the post of MP/MLA. Will it also be debated. In a country where 80% of the population is poor and downtrodden and is suffering in the hands of Influential class, this will be another blow to providing impartial justice to that section of society. In the setup of our country this should never be allowed. Efficiency and good adminsitration doesnot come from working in any organisation. Private sector has entirely different set of priorities than that is needed for Public administration.

Jain

First we need to look at its necessity. If we feel that the civil servants of today are unable to cope with the growing needs of economic expansion, then we should look into the selection process, rather than go for something which may not be workable and lead to misuse.
Why not have specialists for the jobs of civil servants, rather than generalists, as at present. Then this debate need not arise???

Rajiv

I do not understand what are we trying to seek by eliciting reactions on the suggestion that IAS officers be allowed to join private sector for five years and still have the right to come back to the parent service if things do not click! meaning eating the cake and have it too!

O P Mehra

No Sir, Civil servants should not be allowed to join the private sector for 5 years ,with which they have had official dealings any time during last 10 years, from the date they leave service. At present when they join such private offices , it means undue favours in their official capacity for them had been given which they want to cash after leaving service.
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Sethi

Do u think the private sector top brass is so naive as to employ rotten apples to set in the rot in their blood and sweat ventures.May be if the blood is infectious then the bureaucrats will be handy in draining the contamination since they r immune of such contaminations.
Kareena

The issue could have been framed slightly differently, as "Is there
any harm in allowing Civil Servants to go on deputation to Private
Sector for period not exceeding 5 years?"

In many countries, particularly in the Developed World, officers move
from Government to Universities to Private Sector on secondment and it
is considered as a healthy practice, as the officers gain valuable
experience of working in different environments.The Government does
not look suspiciously either at the officers concerned or the Private
Sector. In India also, we need to encourage this kind of
cross-fertilization of experiences.There can be some norms established
with a view to ensuring that the system is not abused.

In the context of IAS, the norms for Empanelment have been made so
restrictive (on a progressively oppressive scale for progressions from
JS to AS and to Secretary) that empanelment is now more a matter of
luck than merit. The batches from 1972 onwards till about 1988 are
fairly large and the retirement age having been increased to 60 years,
a large number of senior officers have to remain with the State
Government till superannuation.There is congestion \ stagnation in the
States as well. There are many States where 1972 batch officers have
still not been promoted as Additional Chief Secretary, whereas in some
States even 1974 batch has been promoted. If some senior officers go
out to Private Sector for periods ranging from 3 to 5 years, the
stagnation will be reduced to some extent.
P.D.Karandikar
(1973 RR-Maharashtra)

No, this is not desirable. What is the objective? "Cross-fertilization of Ideas" not really in the context of Indian bureaucracy. India is not U.K. The idea there is also different than what we are imitating. The way the rule will be used will result in unethical precedents and more heartburning within All India services and other Group A services as permission will be given only to the chosen few. Better course would be to include a stint with any private company as a part of the probationary training if exposure to the private sector is considered useful and relevant. For this the Govt. can have a list of companies willing to impart that training on payment. The Govt. should also think of adding village stay ,say for a month or so for IAS probationers to see first hand the problems of farmers and the actual implementation of all rural development schemes for better appreciation of ground realities of rural India. Working in private sector for five years to make money while retaining your job in Govt is not correct or necessary.
Aarti Khosla

1)If a civil servant can join -association
-Meditation
-PSUs
-Sports
-Cultural Forum
-Clubs
-NGOs etc. which are run by the private people. than what is harm in allowing them to join Pvt. Sector for 5yrs.?
2)Pvt Cos.are created after scrutiny of the various rules and regulations made by concerned Govt. Deptts. Officers/Officials who scrutinise all such norms.They must be made responsible to ensure their adherence in/by the Pvt sectors also.
3)Involvement of Civil servant in Pvt sectors will reduce the corruption and will pave the way to understand realistic situations to run successfully the unit.
4)Financial burden on the Govts' kitty will come down thereby future Tax burden on public.
5)Lot many Litigation between Govt. and Pvt sector, which is unproductive, will come down.
6)In my opinion those who believe in unscientific division of work in the society, will definitely oppose introduction of such new ideas in the country.
HENCE it is in the interest of the Nation to allow Civil Servants to go on deputation in Pvt Sector also.

A.K.LAL

Civil servants should not be allowed to join private sector for 5 years for following reasons
i) What will happen to oath taken while joining service regarding impartiality & loyalty to government. People during these 5 years will work for pvt sector and there interest may be different from government.How can they work against the interest of the government for a single day.
ii) It will encourage people to go outside government and legalise their black money by way of paper work without actual working in the private sector
iii) How will be conduct rules applicable during these transition phase & for violation what action can be taken after joining.
Those who feel that private sector is better for them and they should have bold enough to take the decision without having option to come back.Those who want to take this route to legalise their black money should not be given this opportunity. Those who say it will enhance their capability & potential by way of training in private sector should be given training in premier civil services institutes& administrative academy.
Since some state governmens have already made provision for this so it will be violative of fundamental rights of other government servants if they are not bringing this provision. In such a situation either existing provisions in such state governments should be scrapped or after parliamentry debate constitutional provisions/amendments in article 309 to 312 to be made so that misuse of this provision may not be made.
Instead of making this type of provision efforts should be made to liberalise conduct rules which are still of draconian era. For a small procedural lapse without any mens rea officers can be punished. For last 15 years things have changed for trade and industry but not for bureaucracy. I argued so many cases in CESTAT as Departmental Representative where main accused and beneficiary got case in his favour of officers who have done small lapses or not followed proper procedure as per age old laws were punished in the departmental proceedings. Civil Services are part of society. All the areas of society like Censor board, MRTP, Enforcement Direcotrate, Tariffs, International trade, Taxation are liberalised then why not so called Conduct Rules where one officer can not leave head quarter without permission in a era where whole world has become global village.
Virag Gupta
Director
Gammon
Mumbai

Yes. This will help officers to explore the private sector. It will widen their horizon, improve their relations in corporate world. Government will also have less manpower at the top level resulting in trimmed top. After five years the officer should be given a choice to return to service or leave it permanently.
Vaibhav Galriya

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